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Re: Shad Thames

Postby Fogbrain » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:04 am

kiwi wrote:Bovill & Sons (above) was actually in Coles Lower Wharf, left of Newell's Wharf which is left of the stairs.
They were in Cole's Lower Wharf, but Sean's photo shows them to also be in Newell's Wharf. They were corn merchants and factors. Newell's Wharf was in Shad Thames - but the photographer was standing in New Square!

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Re: Shad Thames

Postby kiwi » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:01 pm

They were in Cole's Lower Wharf, but Sean's photo shows them to also be in Newell's Wharf. They were corn merchants and factors. Newell's Wharf was in Shad Thames - but the photographer was standing in New Square!


According to the Trades’ Directory, Bovill & Sons was only in Coles Lower Wharf.
“Bovill & Sons, 50 Mark lane EC, Coles Lower wharf, Shad Thames SE & 3 Corn Exchange EC.”

Looking at Seans picture the photographer could be standing in Shad Thames looking down New Square, as Sean states. “1906 Bovill and Sons premises on New Square”, which would then make it Coles Lower Wharf and not Newell’s Wharf.

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Re: Shad Thames

Postby Fogbrain » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:19 am

kiwi wrote:
They were in Cole's Lower Wharf, but Sean's photo shows them to also be in Newell's Wharf. They were corn merchants and factors. Newell's Wharf was in Shad Thames - but the photographer was standing in New Square!


According to the Trades’ Directory, Bovill & Sons was only in Coles Lower Wharf.
“Bovill & Sons, 50 Mark lane EC, Coles Lower wharf, Shad Thames SE & 3 Corn Exchange EC.”

Looking at Seans picture the photographer could be standing in Shad Thames looking down New Square, as Sean states. “1906 Bovill and Sons premises on New Square”, which would then make it Coles Lower Wharf and not Newell’s Wharf.
This is the frontage of Cole's Lower Wharf onto New Square (taken from the demolition site of Gibson's Court looking across the site of Morris Court), probably taken on the same day as the picture Sean posted and by the same photographer. You can see a bit of Newell's Wharf - № 30 Shad Thames - through the gap on the left; it matches the building in the Sean's picture - including the streetlamp.
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Re: Shad Thames

Postby kiwi » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:07 am

Fogbrain wrote:
kiwi wrote:
They were in Cole's Lower Wharf, but Sean's photo shows them to also be in Newell's Wharf. They were corn merchants and factors. Newell's Wharf was in Shad Thames - but the photographer was standing in New Square!


According to the Trades’ Directory, Bovill & Sons was only in Coles Lower Wharf.
“Bovill & Sons, 50 Mark lane EC, Coles Lower wharf, Shad Thames SE & 3 Corn Exchange EC.”

Looking at Seans picture the photographer could be standing in Shad Thames looking down New Square, as Sean states. “1906 Bovill and Sons premises on New Square”, which would then make it Coles Lower Wharf and not Newell’s Wharf.
This is the frontage of Cole's Lower Wharf onto New Square (taken from the demolition site of Gibson's Court looking across the site of Morris Court), probably taken on the same day as the picture Sean posted and by the same photographer. You can see a bit of Newell's Wharf - № 30 Shad Thames - through the gap on the left; it matches the building in the Sean's picture - including the streetlamp.Untitled.png


I would take this up with the Trades Directory :roll: Kiwi.

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Re: Shad Thames

Postby Fogbrain » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:34 am

[/quote]I would take this up with the Trades Directory :roll: Kiwi.[/quote]
:) I'll get right on it.

It is strange that neither the 1899 nor the 1910 edition lists Newell's wharf, but the 1910 edition shows Bovills' occupying both the south (№ 27) and the north (№ 28) parts of Cole's Lower Wharf on Shad Thames.


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