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iwilson
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Fort Buildings

Postby iwilson » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:40 pm

Hallo everyone, my name is Ian and I'm a retired special needs art teacher in Enfield North London. One thing I decided to do with my spare time was to find out more about my mothers family, because I was Fostered in 1945 when she died. It has been a series of revelations as I've put the story together bit by bit. I found out for example, that my Grandad Henry Richard Goozee, lived at 78 Alscot Road and was killed on August 21st 1918 near Arras. He's buried at Douchy Les Ayette.

He was a Cooper by trade and so was his father, who worked for Sarson's in the Vinegar Trade. I'm trying to follow their footsteps and visit those places that they might have known and lived. 78 Alscot Road has been knocked down but it would be nice to know which bit of the road was nearest to the house. My great grandfather was called Joseph Henry Goozee and when he came to Bermondsey from Osterley he settled into Fort Buildings with his wife, Jane Rebecca nee' McGuiness. He followed the trade, and there would have been an enormous demand for barrels in the district. Tanners, Brewers, Dyers, Vinegar trades all needed Coopers.

So the first question is: in what bit of Alscot Road did my mum live and the second question is where was Fort Buildings. I've found Fort Road which used to be Fort Street, but Fort Buildings are usually said to be at a Southwark Park Road address, on the other hand they might have been in Leroy Street. So I'm puzzled.

Finally, my search has been easier than most because of the odd surname of my ancestors, so if anyone knows of a Goozee, probably a Nee' Goozee as most of the blokes seem to have been killed off in the wars, I'd be pleased to hear from them. By the way Goozee means 'the people who took care of the Geese' in the same way that there are lots of Miller's, Baker's, Smith's and indeed Coopers in the towns and villages of England.

With Thanks, Ian Wilson
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Re: Fort Buildings

Postby kiwi » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:13 am

HI Ian, welcome to the site. Not sure if this is of any help regarding 78 Alscot Road or what part of the road it was in, only Alscot Road was in two parts separated by Grange Road so there could be two number 78s. So, this is just a stab in the dark at the location so here goes.
If you go to the Alscot Road Topic there is a picture there looking towards Grange Road from Setchell Road. There was a No.78 down on the left nearer to Grange Road in the 1950s, roughly opposite the beginning of the Solarium.
I do know that in 1891 a Reverend Thorn lived at No 76 and roughly where the Solarium is in c1900 was a Methodist Chapel.
Now as you go across Grange Road to the other part of Alscot Road, there on the left in 1950 is a ruin which may have been bomb damage, the house at the end of the ruin and coming towards Grange Road is No.62, so it is possibly there was another No.78, where the ruin is. My best guess is it is the first one, so, I think the nearest road is Grange Road.
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iwilson
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Re: Fort Buildings

Postby iwilson » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:54 pm

Many thanks for your suggestions, I'll investigate them soon. The photo is we think grandad in his uniform. We can't be sure but it's based on family resemblances. I don't think he looks like a soldier although he lasted four years, what a terrible, terrible war that was.

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Re: FORT ROAD,

Postby kiwi » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:06 pm

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Re: Fort Buildings

Postby Fogbrain » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:30 pm

Hello, Ian.
iwilson wrote:So the first question is: in what bit of Alscot Road did my mum live?
kiwi's right - № 78 was in the bit of Alscot Road that was south of Southwark Park Road. Including the rear garden or yard it occupied the area now occupied by the rear gardens of №s 79-91 Hazel Way; the front door was at ///editor.bells.frost. All of the houses in that terrace were two storey - except for № 78 which was three storey including a basement; unlike the other houses it had stairs from the pavement up to the front door and stairs down a small airy to the basement. There was an arch to the right of the front door leading to a structure at the rear - perhaps a horse was stabled there with a cart.

... and the second question is where was Fort Buildings. I've found Fort Road which used to be Fort Street, but Fort Buildings are usually said to be at a Southwark Park Road address ...
Fort Buildings was a row of four shops in Southwark Park Road with flats above the shops and an archway in the centre leading to a yard at the rear. I infer from the numbering that there were two or perhaps three storeys above the shops. A beer shop, which later became the Turk's Head pub was next door but one, and Ord's jam factory was at the rear. On a good day Henry may have enjoyed from the fumes from Ord's but I suspect those from Young's glue works just beyond usually dominated. The centre of the block - where the arch was - was more or less at ///adopt.badge.turkey.


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