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Newcomen Street

Postby fosney » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:06 pm

Posted by crosby34


This is Newcomen street (probably in the 60s judging by the car) and just to the left (out of view) of the photo is the junction of Snowsfields and Crosby Row. I think the building to the left was a pub (or next to a pub on the corner) and the http://images.yuku.building to the right was a school.
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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby fosney » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:23 pm

Newcomen Street thanks to crosby34 for the picture

Todays picture some 40 years later, the pub on the corner and other buildings have long gone.
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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby fosney » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:40 pm

Posted by crosby34


0 4:54 AM

It's funny how you forget what an area looked like and then a photo suddenly brings it all back. I remember walking past the entrance to the factory and until I saw your photo it had gone completely from my mind.
It would also be interesting to know why the council thought that part of Grange Rd and Southwark Park Rd needed to be a dual carriageway. I remember wondering if it was the start of a new scheme and then it just stayed like that for years. It might have even had a 40mph limit at one time.
Here's one for today. Newcomen Street looking towards Borough High St, Fosney can you do the honours as usual?
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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby fosney » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:46 pm

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Newcomen Street Looking Towards Borough High Street

Thanks crosby34 for the picture
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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby fosney » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:48 pm

Posted by rstupple2


It's funny how you forget what an area looked like and then a photo suddenly brings it all back. I remember walking past the entrance to the factory and until I saw your photo it had gone completely from my mind.
It would also be interesting to know why the council thought that part of Grange Rd and Southwark Park Rd needed to be a dual carriageway. I remember wondering if it was the start of a new scheme and then it just stayed like that for years. It might have even had a 40mph limit at one time.
Here's one for today. Newcomen Street looking towards Borough High St, Fosney can you do the honours as usual?


-crosby34


Newcomen Street Looking Towards Borough High Street
Thanks crosby34 for the picture
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-fosney


Crosby34 and you Joe see in the older photo that the Pub is still standing cant think of the proper name of the Pub, but it was always know as the carbolic, don't know why any answers out there. Rick

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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby fosney » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:20 pm

Prisons in the Borough

In the past Southwark was known for it's prisons and undesirable residents and the dangerous trades excluded from the City of London. In the 17th/18th centuries there were four prisons in the space between Newcomen Street and St George's Church - they being: Kings Bench Prison, Marshalsea Prison, the County Jail, the House of Correction. Additionally there was The Clink, the Borough Compter, and the White Lyon (a converted Inn).

Nothing much remains of these structures except that of the Marshalsea Prison for Debtors and once again we are grateful to Charles Dickens (whose family were incarcerated in this prison for debt) through him we have a record of what it was like behind these walls.



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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby kiwi » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:17 am

Not to sure the pub wasn't called the Angel, originally that area where Newcomen Street is was all yards and called the Axe, then it became the Axe Inn Yard. It eventually became King Street before being renamed Newcomen Street around 1879,apparently in honour of Mrs Elizabeth Newcomen the original owner of the Axe Yard.

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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby kiwi » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:52 am

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: Newcomen Street looking east from Borough High Street

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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby kiwi » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:06 am

The pub on the corner in the earlier picture above is The Kings Arms. It changed from King Street to Newcomen Street in the late 1800s. Looking at the Coat of Arms (date 1890 King Street) and by 1900 it was Newcomen Street.
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Kings arms, Newcomen Street, Borough, 2015.
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The King's Arms public-house, king Street, Borough,1828
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King's Arms public house, Coat of arms Newcomen Street.

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Re: Newcomen Street

Postby kiwi » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:54 am

Looking at the 2017 picture, :roll: to me the Green as taken all the character away from the pub.
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Kings Arms, Borough 2017
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The King's Arms, 65 Newcomen Street SE1 2008


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