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Staples Rents Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:48 pm

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Picture of Staples Rents in Paradise Street an alleyway some 150 yards from Prospect Street going west in Paradise Street towards West Lane.
The Booth Survey into life and labour in London 1886-1903; 1899 report said about Staples Rents;
Staples Rents 18 homes narrow children dirty and one pays 6 shillings for 4 and a wash house with a small room over the wash house; was raised 6d three years ago but not since; on the west side is a 3 roomed house which pays 6/6d but the occupents are always in and out.
This area was devolped many years ago and is now part of the Pynefold Estate
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Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:42 pm

Paradise Streeet Police Station

Paradise Street Police Station in 1963. A Grade II Listed Building is now called Sir William Gaitskell House - after its first occupant Sir William Gaitskell who was the first resident in 1814. The building was turned into a Police Station in 1838 some nine years after the formation of the Metropolitan Police under the 1829 Act and was the oldest Police Station in London. In 1963 plans were made for the Police to abandon the site and demolish the building but it was saved and turned into offices. A Listed Building Order was put on the building in 1970.
Considering it stood in the heart of London during the Blitz it is hard to believe how it survived but it did. Now saved for its interior fittings and design, though not on view to the public, the subsidiary external features of ironwork can be viewed from the outside.
For those of us who can remember that far back it was used for the frontage of the introduction of the TV series "Dixon of Dock Green" and still retains the Blue Lamp.
Today the building is occupied by Minerva Ltd an IT support company.
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Re: Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:45 pm

Posted by jimmica


where did you hear it was in the intro to dixon of dock green? if you look closely the door casing is portland stone and paradise st is london brick but it sure was in the boy on the bridge because i watched them filming it

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Re: Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:45 pm

jimmika

Got the information about filming on something I was reading about the building. I will see if I can find it again and let you know, but if you are right " I stand Corrected"

Joe

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Re: Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:49 am

Posted by rkhair



Paradise Street Police Station in 1963. A Grade II Listed Building is now called Sir William Gaitskell House - after its first occupant Sir William Gaitskell who was the first resident in 1814. The building was turned into a Police Station in 1838 some nine years after the formation of the Metropolitan Police under the 1829 Act and was the oldest Police Station in London. In 1963 plans were made for the Police to abandon the site and demolish the building but it was saved and turned into offices. A Listed Building Order was put on the building in 1970.
Considering it stood in the heart of London during the Blitz it is hard to believe how it survived but it did. Now saved for its interior fittings and design, though not on view to the public, the subsidiary external features of ironwork can be viewed from the outside.
For those of us who can remember that far back it was used for the frontage of the introduction of the TV series "Dixon of Dock Green" and still retains the Blue Lamp.
Today the building is occupied by Minerva Ltd an IT support company.


-fosney


this is great! i work in the building at the moment! just stumbled accross the pics! do you have anymore!

by the way it was in the intro for dixon of dock green we have pictures in out hall way of it!

dont suppose you have anymore pics? be good to put them up, tried finding the one you posted on ghetty images, couldnt see it though!

cheers!

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Re: Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:36 pm

Paradise Street - The Ark

The Ark Mission in Paradise Street - one of many Missions that could be found in the Bermondsey and Rotherhithe area in the early 1900s.

The Ark was one of several waterside Missions to promote Christianity among the poor.

According to what we find on the old map of the area, it was reached from an alleyway at the east end of Paradise Street. The building itself stood to the rear of the properties in Paradise Street and those in Jamaica Road approximately to the rear of the old Post Office Sorting Office.

Today the area has been redeveloped and this is now part of a landscaped area.

Does anybody who lived in Paradise Street remember The Ark, or can anyone tell us of the history of the building?
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Re: Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:45 pm

Posted by freddie


Hi fosney

On Booth's survey (Book B280 pages 182-197) there is an interview taken 17/1/1900 with William Joyner of the Ark. I have previously viewed similar pages but cannot, at present, seem to access them. Maybe they have been withdrawn from free on-line viewing.

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Re: Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:49 pm

Paradise Street

Another picture of Paradise Street, submitted to the forum by a member who is unsure of where in Paradise Street, it was.

I have concluded that the picture was taken from the junction with West Lane, looking east. The Mission Hall being on the corner of the former Prospect Street (now gone) and although the map shown does not show a building next to No 6 Paradise Street, an earlier map does. The trees and War Memorial in West Lane still remain, although redevelopment has taken place.

The open gates next to No 6 led to a yard while the gates between No 10 and No 14 led to a Sawmill, which we assume was No 12.

If anyone has any further information or opinions on this please let us know.
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Re: Paradise Street

Postby fosney » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:32 am

Paradise Street- The Ark

With information received from freddie I have managed to obtain the record of an interview with Mr Wm Joyner of The Ark, on 17 January 1900, from The Charles Booth Papers.

William Booths Diaries 1900

Mr Wm Joyner, The Ark, 88 Paradise Street, Rotherhithe SE

Mr Joyner is a tall, thin, sharp featured elderly man. Almost bald; thin greyish hair and beard. Wears a ministerial collar and speaks in a slow deliberate manner with a pause before each sentence, as if thinking what he ought to say. Seems to have little energy or decision of character. Has known Rotherhithe for 36 years. Was connected with the Ark in its earliest days and returned to it 7 years ago.

Much drink and poverty in the neighbourhood of Paradise Street. The worst parts are Fulford, Rowney and other streets to the north of Paradise Street. The block is condemned: has been condemned for years but now he believes it is really coming down and models are to be built. Three or four families live in a house in one case he found 6 in a room. In Paradise Street there is a very rough common lodging house.

Most of the men are labourers at the waterside or in the docks. The women make sacks or work at the jam factories.

The Ark holds 200. Have no other room but want to build one on a piece of land, they have adjoining the church.

Sunday services at 11 & 6.30. Small in the morning; about 100 at night.
Sunday School with about 200 children & 20 teachers.
Parents Meeting (Wed afternoon); Services (Thursday) and prayer meeting on Saturday.

Mr J. does some visiting but I gathered that it was not much.

Church membership is 46.

Mr J. gives a "good bit" of charitable relief but I could not get a definite statement as to amount - it is doubtless small and is given to sick and out of work cases.

Christchurch (Bardsley) gives relief but the R.C.s do not. "They never do - they get the money from the people."

Mr Joyner lives in Paradise Street, is frequently disturbed by people fighting etc., especially on Saturday and Sunday nights.

Thinks the prospects of work are good but spoke in a tone that showed he was very dubious on the point.

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Re: Paradise Street

Postby kiwi » Thu May 04, 2017 2:47 am

According to the 1911 census, Park Buildings were in Paradise Street, Rotherhithe.
Max Bygraves lived in a council flat in Park Buildings, Paradise Street.
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PARK BUILDINGS, PARADISE STREET,ROTHERHITHE.
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