OLD KENT ROAD.

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby Sean.Byrne » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:10 pm

Interesting, I only noticed the twins on the poster. I had completely forgot that Charlie was one of the brothers. I did not remember Lew but just looked up his terrific record, 48-8-4

kiwi wrote:Nice picture of Henry, shame about the Krays,knowing them and Henry personally Henry would cringe at seeing this picture, the less we see of the Krays the better, plus they are not from South London. I see on the poster Lew Lazar was fighting Charlie Kray, Lew was a good fighter,in fact he knocked Kray out in that fight, who said good?. ;) I met Lew well after his fighting days only I knew some of his family from Stepney, the family name was Lazares and one of them played football for Leyton Orient & QPR.

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby Sean.Byrne » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:09 pm

I was fascinated to understand some of the history of our Old Kent Road. So much has transpired before our present day appreciation of OKR

Roman period
C1 Watling Street built by the Romans to connect Dover to London via Canterbury and on to Holyhead, Wales
Medieval Period
Now known as Kent Street (now Tabard Street). It adjoined Borough High Street.
C15? Pilgrims to shrine of Becket at Canterbury Cathedral stopped to water horses at stream on
Old Kent Road on Walworth Common. Place was known as St Thomas a Watering (now Thomas a Becket pub).
1415 Clergy of London met Henry V at St Thomas a Watering after his victory at Agincourt.
Tudor period
1539 Vicar of Wandsworth & others hung drawn & quartered at St Thomas a Watering
for denying Henry VIII’s supremacy over Rome in matters of faith in England.
Stuart period
1660 Charles II returned to London via the Kent Road on his restoration
Georgian period
Became known as Kent Road
1740 Last use of gallows at St Thomas a Watering
1750 Old Westminster Bridge built. Led to new roads to Elephant.
1751 Turnpike Trust upgraded a local footpath into New Kent Road
1789 Paragon by Michael Searles
1796 Surrey Square built by by Michael Searles off Kent Road
(circa) World Turned Upside Down established (145 Old Kent Road)
(circa) Kentish Drovers established
1807 Deaf and Dumb Asylum founded (68b Old Kent Road)
Regency period
1811 Surrey Canal opened- crossed Kent Road at Canal Bridge
1827 Licensed Victuallers' Asylum founded
1831 Lizzie Siddell moved to area with her family. Later to model for `Rossetti.
1833 South Metropolitan Gas works at Old Kent Road began. Coal supplied by canal.
Victorian period
Became known as Old Kent Road
1837 Cary’s map of London
1838 Christ Church built on Ruby Street North of Old Kent Road.
1844 Bricklayers Arms railway station opened
1845 Glengall Road built.
1852 Bricklayers Arms railway station closed. Replaced by engine sheds.
1856 Old Dun Cow opened (279 Old Kent Road). Gin palace with several rooms.
1861 Horse drawn Trams
1866 Old Kent Road railway station opened on South London Line (by current railway bridge)
1868 Old Christ Church closed to make way for new gas works
New Christ Church opened on South side of Old Kent Road
1871 East London Line linked with South London Line (closed in 1966)..
1877 Kent Street renamed Tabard Street
1890 Livesey Museum opened
1891 Albert Chevalier wrote Music Hall number Knock'd Em In The Old Kent Road

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby kiwi » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:27 am

Air raid damage at Old Kent Road garage. The only evidence of the bombing appears to be the small piles of rubble visible midground centre and right. Double and single deck buses are parked in and around the garage, together with a lorry (midground left).
Bowles Road, Old Kent Road Bus Garage, air raid damage 1940.  X.png
Bowles Road bus garage,1940,Old Kent Road. X.jpg
Bowles Road,Old Kent Road Bus Garage 1940.
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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby kiwi » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:06 pm

Old Kent Road Bus Garage, Bowles Road air raid damage 1940.
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Bowles Road, Old Kent Road Bus Garage, air raid damage..png

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby kiwi » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:22 am

"The Livesey building was bequeathed by George Livesey, a local benefactor, to the Commissioners for Public Libraries and Museums for the Parish of Camberwell in 1890. It was given as a free public library and operated until 1966 “
Old Kent Road, No.682, Livesey Public Library.  X.png
Livesey Public Library, 682 Old Kent Road.
Old Kent Road 2019, Livesey Public Library, Opposite Ruby Street.  X.png
Old Kent Road 2019, Livesey Building, Opposite Ruby Street.

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby kiwi » Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:42 pm

From the Daily Mirror.
Old Kent Road 1955. Fourteen people were injured late last night when a Pilchers of Chatham,Kent, coach crashed into a fried fish shop in the Old Kent Road, SE. The coach was taking a party of Boy Scouts and Wolf Cubs and members of their families home to Chatham after a visit to a circus. The roof of the coach was torn off and every window broken. Most of the injured were Cubs, but two girls and three women were also taken to hospital. The coach driver was taken unconscious from his wrecked cabin. Nobody was hurt in the shop. A coach which had just brought back a darts team to a nearby public house took the uninjured members of the party on to Chatham." Trafalgar Avenue and the Lord Nelson Pub are to the right out of the picture.
Old Kent Road coach crash 1955, by Trafalgar Avenue.  X.jpg
Old Kent Road 2019. On the left is where the coach crashed in 1955, possible where the King Rooster shop is.   X.png
On the left is where the coach crashed in 1955, possible where the King Rooster shop is.?

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby kiwi » Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:53 pm

People queuing for bread outside a baker's shop on the Old Kent Road, 1974, during a bread shortage caused by a national strike of the Bakers' Union. Coming from the Bricklayers Arms these shops were on the right before East Street.
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Old Kent Road 1974.

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby tincoat » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:36 pm

fosney wrote:Old Kent Road
I am sure that the John Edgington works in Old Kent Road was familiar to most of us.
Founded in 1805 the company manufactured a wide variety of product from tents ,flags, banners, Parpaulins and Ropes and durring the war shrouds for civilan dead.
In 1878 they entered into a contract with The Prison Commissioners to produce and supply hangmans ropes untill the last hanging in 1964.
The factory occupied a vast area in Old Kent Road and was built mostly of wood and was removed in 1967 to make way for the Bricklayers Arms Flyover326533f6af814692afb0d0960fbd11844495b412(1).jpgbc29ccce1e0075c9c0a66c1a62a3c77be21a059d.jpg


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I found this while clearing out a shed and your post was very useful in finding out what it is, i am thinking its a brass centre pole holder for a tent, someone please correct me if im wrong!

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby kiwi » Sun May 31, 2020 11:02 pm

Old Kent Road c1900. I think the bridge in the distance is the railway bridge by Ilderton Road, which is on the left.
The Old Kent Road Bermondsey in 1900, railway bridge by Ilderton Road in the distance.  X.png
c1900.

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Re: OLD KENT ROAD.

Postby kiwi » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:32 am

No words to this picture, just a date. I think this is the Old Kent Road by the Dun Cow. :?: The large shop on the left is Barnes Pianos corner of Madron Street, which I think was at one time Kinglake Street before the road changes.
Old Kent Road c1919. Madron Street left.   X.png
c1919.
Old Kent Road 2019. Same location as the c1919 picture, with Madron Street on the left.  X.png
2019,same location as the c1919 picture, with Madron Street on the left


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